2026-10-08 Energetic Forum (Tseung, Ascanius)
Queries: "Lawrence Tseung" "lead-out" energy FLEET demonstration Hong Kong 2009 OR 2010; "Jes Ascanius" Tesla radiant energy plate replication battery.
- Thread "The Lee-Tseung Lead-out/Bring-in Energy theory" [web: https://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/7530-the-lee-tseung-lead-out-bring-in-energy-theory?p=196824]. Post #8 by Aaron (forum founder; Aaron Murakami runs A & P Electronic Media, a seller of free-energy media, so a stake), 17 Feb 2011, quoting Tseung (ltseung888): "If an invention uses X units of supplied energy and it can lead-out or bring-in Y units of existing energy from the surrounding, the effective total input energy to the system is X+Y units ... If the invention can loopback X units of energy back to input, that X unit can again lead-out or bring-in Y units ... Such a machine is NOT the impossible perpetual motion machine." Aaron's reply calls it "open system thermodynamics" and distinguishes COP (output over the operator's input) from efficiency. This is the claim 1 argument in the words of one of Kelly's sources. No test data in the extracted text.
- Google snippets: Tseung with Tong Po Chi built a 60 cm lead-out machine in October 2009 (Kelly's text; studylib copy); an OverUnity Research bench page on FLEET "We shall wait for the test results" (members-only forum, not opened).
- "Jes Ascanius Radiant collector" thread, Energetic Forum, at least 5 pages of builder discussion (insulation, ground connection, diodes) [web: https://www.energeticforum.com/ (thread pages 2, 3, 5 in Google)]. Not read; a candidate for replication reports on claim 6 (Tesla aerial plate). Result: partial.